What is Energy? Pt.2
Last time in this brief series on the concept of sovereignism, we explored in depth how every political system thus far devised involves individuals giving up some of their sovereignty to a collective government in the hopes of getting increased security in return. While that works at least for a while, eventually the government tends to grow and take more and more control for itself until some sort of despotism takes hold. That despotism can take many forms but the important part is that it means individuals no longer have control over much of their own lives.
That control takes a lot of energy. For a state to maintain control over a population the amount of energy that gets expended is nuts. And that isn’t to grow, to expand, or to increase prosperity, it’s just to control and keep things where they are at. That’s why the state keeps trying to control more. It and the people who run it believe that controlling more will mean there is more energy to direct towards growth. The problem is that it works in the short term. The state pulls in more and for a while can do more work with that infusion of energy. Yet, before long, that energy again gets sucked up in maintaining control. So it tries to get more energy until the people who make up the state’s population aren’t giving any more. Either because they have no more to give or because they just aren’t having it. When that point is reached, the state begins to crumble, breaking down under the strain of maintaining control.
So, what is energy? In this reading, you could say energy is control. It is used to maintain control, either by the state over people or by people over themselves. It is also power. Power over others, over things. Power to accomplish goals, whatever they might be. All that might be small thinking though. Why? Because energy is at the root of everything. The computer I’m writing this on obviously requires electricity, which most likely comes from a fossil fuel plant. Those fossil fuels were once plants and animals that pulled nutrients from the ground with the help of the sun.
The energy from the sun is therefore at the base of everything that happens here on earth. Yet, that is not the real base, you can keep going back all the way to the big bang, which was all the energy still in the universe contained in an infinitesimal point. We get to study that energy in the Cosmic Background Radiation, microwaves that carry a record of the first moments of the universe. It’s the energy signature of the creation of the universe. You want to know the truth about what happened in those first moments? Study the energy. So perhaps, ultimately energy is a signpost to the truth. Not only is this true when it comes to understanding the truths of the universe, it works to a degree with people too. What to know about what a person really wants? What a person thinks is important? Look at what they do, where they spend their energy. Especially their energy when the necessities are met. What do people do with their energy after they have food and shelter? No matter what they say then, that is a big indicator of what they really find important. That’s the truth.
Why then would we give any of that up? Why give up truth, power or control to a centralized entity that will likely use it against you? Whether it be a business or a government, chances are anything you give them can and will be used against you. That’s why people should be moving to systems like TARTLE and cryptocurrency. Take back control of your data, the record of how you spend your energy. Get away from the systems of the centralized entities that don’t have your interests at heart. Why do you think they want your data so much? It isn’t for your benefit, it’s for theirs.
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In this reading, you could say energy is control. It is used to maintain control, either by the state over people or by people over themselves. It is also power. Power over others, over things. Power to accomplish goals, whatever they might be.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to Tartle Cast with your hosts Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby, where humanities gets into the future and source data defines the path.
Alexander McCaig (00:24):
Hello everybody. We're back again to talk about one of Robert Breedlove's articles on medium called Sovereignism Part 1: Digital Creative Destruction. This is part two.
Jason Rigby (00:36):
We always do this with great papers.
Alexander McCaig (00:37):
Yeah. Part two of part one.
Jason Rigby (00:41):
Mr. McCaig, let's get into energy is truth. That's a statement on here. And can you read the Nikola Tesla?
Alexander McCaig (00:48):
Yeah. He says, "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of frequency, vibration, and energy." If we create those large harden, hadron collider, whatever the heck the thing's called, people are looking for that secret. They're looking for that, what they would coin a God particle. That's what people want to know. And Tesla's over here saying if you want to find the secrets of the universe, it's information and it's information that's found in frequency, vibration, and energy. That's where it sits. The combination of those things. Does that not make sense? What is this vibration telling me?
Jason Rigby (01:29):
When you say combination, I want to get into this because he's going to get into the energy side of things. But I want us to kind of, when we look at frequency, vibration, and energy and we look at data.
Alexander McCaig (01:38):
Yeah.
Jason Rigby (01:40):
It is all of that. We are creating energy by the data that we produce. It takes energy to produce that. The frequency of vibration of that is very important. Like if I just go on Facebook, I mean, they'll ban me. But if I go on Facebook and I'm just producing hate constantly negative hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. There's a frequency and a vibration and a energy to that.
Alexander McCaig (02:00):
Yeah.
Jason Rigby (02:01):
And that's data that I'm producing that has that. So I'm putting out there and whether it gains... you know, there'll be a certain group of people that will respond to that hate and take it and I could create a tribe off of it and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Alexander McCaig (02:12):
Right.
Jason Rigby (02:14):
But that frequency, vibration and energy is my responsibility in the way that I'm producing that information.
Alexander McCaig (02:20):
Yeah. Think about-
Jason Rigby (02:20):
And it is their responsibility for... it is not the government's responsibility. It is their responsibility also for the people that choose to associate with the hate that I'm putting out there.
Alexander McCaig (02:30):
Correct. The energy is the information.
Jason Rigby (02:32):
Yes. There you go.
Alexander McCaig (02:33):
The frequency is the flavor of it. Whether it's hate or it's love, that's the frequency. And the vibration is how often are we doing this stuff. Or you can do it actually vice versa-
Jason Rigby (02:44):
We're rippling how this-
Alexander McCaig (02:45):
Yeah, for frequency and vibration, you can say it vice versa for data. It's both, right? So energy is the information and frequency and vibration, that just tells me the flavor and how often of that flavor.
Jason Rigby (02:54):
Yeah. And he gets heavy into energy and he says, I love this statement, he says, "Harnessing energy for self-generation is the aim of all life."
Alexander McCaig (03:01):
Harnessing your data for self-generation is the aim of your life.
Jason Rigby (03:05):
Well, I want to get into evolution in nature because I think with that philosophical aspect of it... can you explain...
Alexander McCaig (03:13):
No.
Jason Rigby (03:14):
No, no, you can't. Can you explain humanity? Humanity in and of itself and the essential core of the aim of life, like us as humans and why are we here and what do we want to accomplish? I know those are huge macro questions but energy plays a role in this.
Alexander McCaig (03:33):
If you look at microbiology, you're looking at amoebas floating around on a Petri dish, maybe a whole bunch of bacteria. The bacteria in its forms, it wants to grow, wants to evolve. But in order for it to do that, it has to consume some sort of energy so that it can go through a cellular mitosis. Split, grow, evolve, divide, whatever it needs to do so it can increase, right?
Jason Rigby (04:01):
So it needs energy and efficiency.
Alexander McCaig (04:03):
It needs energy and efficiency because it wants to live. Things at such a core level, all they want to do is live. They want to exist. So they reproduce, but they require energy to do that. So they're going to consume other amoebas, other bacterias, these things will grow and grow and grow and grow and grow. So at the core level of the thing that, especially you, you have so much bacteria in you, it wants to survive. But when I take an antibiotic, it kills all that bacteria in my gut, no longer surviving at that point. What life wants to do is live. When's the last time you saw a tree outside and it just wants to croak over and die? When's the last time you saw a bird that said, "You know, screw it. I want to end it all."? When's the last time a mountain said, "I don't want to be a mountain anymore."? When's the last time the earth stopped spinning?
Alexander McCaig (04:51):
It just wants to go. It wants to evolve. It wants to move. There is movement. There was life. That's what it wants to do. It just wants to live. It wants to evolve to that next state. The next phase, that change of phase. That's what it's going through. And so when you asked me like, "What is it that we want to do?" Well, we have to look at that energy to move us through those hay states. We want to evolve. We got to get to that next step. It's naturally what we want to do.
Jason Rigby (05:18):
And we'll close out because I'm going to bring you back to that. But I love to the [inaudible 00:05:24] says, "Energy is more efficiently converted to mechanical work and strongly bonded systems." And then he explains, he says, "In physical systems, these bonds are molecular."
Alexander McCaig (05:34):
Yeah. I'll explain that. I'm going to take in a breath of air, in, the air is a different temperature than what's going on inside my body. I'm going to bring it up to my core temp. I'm going to process all of these molecules that are in there that are necessary for me to actually feed my blood and the red blood cells. And then I'm going to expand out. Through this exchange process, there's a bond of a human being with oxygen intake and nitrogen and all that other stuff. That's what's going on.
Alexander McCaig (06:09):
So through this, we create an energy efficiency through the lungs of taking exactly what we need and expelling what we don't, but it's a change of phase. But we need to take in that energy. If we don't, we cannot live. We cannot evolve. If I don't take in more data through some sort of strong bond between my mind and the data I create, I don't have that energy to evolve. If one person is grabbing all that energy, holding it in a centralized effort, that's like taking oxygen away from the rest of the globe. It doesn't have that resource it needs to evolve. Does that bridge that metaphor makes sense?
Jason Rigby (06:46):
Yeah, that makes sense. And so that was the physical system. And I want people to understand, not only in the physical systems, but he's going to talk about the economic system. Data is a part of all of this. So when you think economic systems, you can think of data in there too. He says "In economic systems, these bonds are property. Stronger bonds equal greater energy efficiency."
Alexander McCaig (07:03):
Yeah, because the stronger the bond, think about two molecules, right? They want to be attached because of these atomic structures. You got electrons flying around. Something's got to take the place of something else, right? It wants to be bond. It has to have good cohesion to it. And once it's really cohesive, energy can easily move back and forth through this bond. Because it's like, I know that there's a solid medium of exchange for energy to move from here to here. Center Tartle, I have party A, party B and the bond is Tartle in the center. People can efficiently move data between one another and the value for that data-
Jason Rigby (07:38):
In a free marketplace.
Alexander McCaig (07:39):
In a free marketplace.
Jason Rigby (07:40):
Without it being manipulated.
Alexander McCaig (07:42):
Yes.
Jason Rigby (07:42):
And then he says, "Stronger bonds equal greater energy [inaudible 00:07:46]. Considerations of energy efficiency shape the tools and systems mankind creates for himself."
Alexander McCaig (07:51):
Well, that's what we thought about when we designed Tartle.
Jason Rigby (07:53):
Right.
Alexander McCaig (07:53):
And I'm going to keep using this as an example here.
Jason Rigby (07:54):
No this is great. Maybe this will help people understand.
Alexander McCaig (07:57):
We wanted to consider energy efficiency. How efficiently can we make a process from taking data that you create? Downloading it, taking your power back of it, putting it into something that can be moved, all right. Almost like taking your data and putting it into an atom. I'm going to shift the atom from here to here. How efficiently-
Jason Rigby (08:15):
That's data.
Alexander McCaig (08:16):
That's all it is. How efficiently can we make that process? So party A to party B. We have a bonded system between these people looking for an efficiency. How quickly can we do it? Is time that essential? What's the frequency? What's the vibration? What's the energy? And that cost of that energy is what you receive in return for creating that data.
Jason Rigby (08:37):
Yes, yes.
Alexander McCaig (08:38):
Wonderful system.
Jason Rigby (08:39):
Well, he says this, "Thermodynamically sound structures." This is so good. "Those which maximize utility, absolutely scarce energy." Notice the word scarce. And then I'm going to say the statement what you talk about. "Tend to become favored in free market competition."
Alexander McCaig (08:53):
Right, because if we're more efficient, if there's less waste burn off of energy or heat dissipation, whatever it might, inverse-square law just sending energy out. The less we have that, the more concentrated and efficient that energy can become, it become more focused. And when you have a focus, you have an enhanced rate of evolution.
Jason Rigby (09:12):
Right.
Alexander McCaig (09:13):
Like this pyramid we have here on the table, it comes to a point, it comes to a focus, you know where you need to go. In affording ourselves that focus of that energy, helps us evolve. It's like having those train tracks and pushing us forward where we need to go.
Jason Rigby (09:28):
Yeah. He says the ability to retain energy over time without dissipation.
Alexander McCaig (09:33):
Dissipation.
Jason Rigby (09:35):
Dissipation.
Alexander McCaig (09:36):
That's what I'm saying, inverse-square law.
Jason Rigby (09:36):
Which I get, yeah, exactly.
Alexander McCaig (09:36):
So ba ba ba ba, the energy is just going out and it's dissipating and we don't want that. How do we put it in a beautifully bonded system where it doesn't have that waste?
Jason Rigby (09:43):
Yeah. Dude, listen to this.
Alexander McCaig (09:45):
Go ahead, hit me.
Jason Rigby (09:46):
"In a universe where life continuously competes for its share of finite energy." And he uses this word, I need to look this word up. You probably know what it is, but "Profligacy is ruinous."
Alexander McCaig (09:58):
Profligacy.
Jason Rigby (09:59):
Yes, is ruinous. So you have to think of it. So we have finite energy in a universe and what are we arguing over?
Alexander McCaig (10:08):
Yeah. Profligacy is the character condition of being profligate. Profligate or a very vicious course of life. So we're just killing each other. We're just like, we're not being efficient with our systems. It's just one person wants to maintain control and I want it all at whatever cost. That's what it is.
Jason Rigby (10:29):
And he says, "As the most accurate portrayal of reality, energy is truth. Conservation of energy then is conservation of truth. The key to success in competitive conditions, organisms and organizations alike."
Alexander McCaig (10:41):
Yeah.
Jason Rigby (10:42):
That strong bond that he's talking about, "The conservation of truth."
Alexander McCaig (10:48):
And if we have truthful data, this energy with this frequency and vibration, if we choose to conserve that, if we choose to put it in a strongly bonded system, Tartle, and we all choose to adopt that Tartle.
Jason Rigby (11:02):
Right.
Alexander McCaig (11:02):
Then what we're doing is we're finding that increase rate of evolution. And we're not wasting something that's in front of us. Respect it for the energy it has. You respect it for its ability to allow us to create conditions for health and growth and all these things alike.
Jason Rigby (11:20):
"Stopping the allocation." I'm going back to the article, "Stopping allocation of human energy into management of," and he puts that into paragraphs, "management of more accurately politicking over the power to manage the money supply, mankind liberties his energies to construct more robust socioeconomic structures on the unshakeable foundation of immutable money." So, and those sound like big words but "The management of."
Alexander McCaig (11:45):
Yeah, centralized banks want to manage. They don't want you to have the energy or the power. They don't want you to have it. That's why they're a central authority doing this. Otherwise-
Jason Rigby (11:56):
It's the top-down approach.
Alexander McCaig (11:57):
It's a top-down approach. By the way, it's never worked, ever. Imagine if the Earth took a top down approach, what species would be left here?
Jason Rigby (12:05):
Well, because I want people understand this, if money is energy, because that's what it is. Because we will give up all of our energy, as humans, to get a paycheck. Every week we give up energy to get a paycheck. Then from there, we purchase things, with consumerism. So we're transferring this energy around and whether it be data, whether it be a currency, whatever it may be, we're transferring this around and he uses thermodynamics, which I think is perfect.
Alexander McCaig (12:36):
That's fine.
Jason Rigby (12:38):
And it's agnostic. All of it. And he talks about it being neutral territory.
Alexander McCaig (12:42):
That's all it is. Yeah. It don't care. It doesn't have a dogma.
Jason Rigby (12:45):
But whenever you add military, whenever you add political affiliation.
Alexander McCaig (12:50):
Dogma.
Jason Rigby (12:50):
Whenever you add proximity to-
Alexander McCaig (12:53):
Dogma.
Jason Rigby (12:54):
Or dogma, yeah, exactly. Like the Eagle with the God. It's like, okay, now you've got to interpret... I was thinking about that if you said that because that's what we have in the United States here.Okay. Now, what is the definition of God?
Alexander McCaig (13:08):
Yeah.
Jason Rigby (13:08):
So how are we going to rule people, with what definition of God?
Alexander McCaig (13:12):
If you put God on your money...
Jason Rigby (13:13):
Because the definition of God has changed. It changes, it evolves over time because that definition of God is just a consensus of the people at the time. So now you have no stable government.
Alexander McCaig (13:30):
No.
Jason Rigby (13:33):
He gives this quote from Clausewitz, "War is the continuation of politics by other means." I think about-
Alexander McCaig (13:39):
Well, it sucked here in the boardroom so, all right, let's hop in the jet, launch a missile, call it a day.
Jason Rigby (13:44):
So I want us to look at what the word money or we can use-
Alexander McCaig (13:50):
Yeah, money is as scarce as the energy necessary to produce the fruits of labor to which it lays claims. Let's think about this system. And let me, dear world, let me walk you through this. I go to buy a car, right? Before I go in there to buy a car, I have to make sure that I can walk there.
Jason Rigby (14:22):
Right.
Alexander McCaig (14:23):
I got to get to the dealership, okay. Maybe I already have a car. Well, I have to go by gasoline. But in order for me to do that, to work, to earn an income, to purchase this other energy thing, to get me where I needed to go, I have to feed myself. If I have no caloric intake, my body can't move. It can't think or have thoughts. So where do I get caloric intake? I get it from food. So before I can do anything, I got to go eat first. And before that food can actually be produced, it needs to have energy from the sun. If I'm eating meat, then the cow has eat the grass. And the grass grows through photosynthesis, coming from the sun, a pure energy source.
Alexander McCaig (15:11):
Energy is the base. I can't buy that car, if it's not for the sun. I can't have money, if I don't eat. I can't have thoughts or data, unless I have sunlight. If you go all the way back, the fruits of your labor can be banked to one thing and one thing only, and that's the sun infinitely producing energy. So if we can capture this energy, we can then change the phase state of that energy into something where we can actually have a useful evolution with it. But right now, money, in the sense of our central authorities, don't look at it like that. Not at all. It's not for you to capture it's for them to capture and in doing so, it prohibit-
Jason Rigby (15:57):
You can borrow from them.
Alexander McCaig (15:58):
Yeah.
Jason Rigby (15:58):
We'd love for you to borrow from us.
Alexander McCaig (15:59):
The thing is you're borrowing energy from them.
Jason Rigby (16:03):
You don't own the energy. You're borrowing it from them.
Alexander McCaig (16:04):
You don't own the energy.
Jason Rigby (16:05):
They own it.
Alexander McCaig (16:05):
And when you go to work for something, you're working for something that you will never own. So when he even talks about Bitcoin being honest money, it's really about you owning your energy. It's what you choose to absorb. It's the fruits of your labor, to which you want to lay claim.
Jason Rigby (16:20):
So you've paid your mortgage off, you own your house. You've paid your car off, you own that. You have no debt. Don't pay your taxes for 10 years and see if you own that house and own that car. What do you think the government's going to do if you don't pay your taxes for 10 years? They're going to seize your property.
Alexander McCaig (16:35):
Seize your property.
Jason Rigby (16:36):
And so you don't really own that.
Alexander McCaig (16:37):
You've never owned it.
Jason Rigby (16:38):
No. And he says this "When rules can't be bent in money," or you can put data there, "Can't be easily confiscated through political measures, the pursuit of peaceful cooperation becomes the most productive strategy. Immutable money, politics," and he gets into this and he says, "All human rights may be instilled into one." And he says, "That's choice." So sovereignism, that's what we get into sovereignism.
Alexander McCaig (17:06):
You and I talk about this all day.
Jason Rigby (17:07):
I know we do, yeah, yeah.
Alexander McCaig (17:08):
We say that's a huge human right. That's number three for us.
Jason Rigby (17:11):
But when rules can't be bent and politics can't get involved, that exchange of energy becomes pure and truthful.
Alexander McCaig (17:19):
And efficient.
Jason Rigby (17:19):
And efficient.
Alexander McCaig (17:20):
You know what's going on in Tartle? There's no rule bending. It's a straightforward, heavily bonded efficient process.
Jason Rigby (17:27):
It's an exchange, purely a simple exchange-
Alexander McCaig (17:30):
Of information and energy.
Jason Rigby (17:31):
... from seller to buyer, buyer to seller.
Alexander McCaig (17:32):
Yeah. It's information and energy between two bonds. That's it.
Jason Rigby (17:36):
Yes.
Alexander McCaig (17:36):
We've got this beautiful, strong molecular structure happening. No rule bending, nothing. It's transparent. It's straightforward. People know what they're getting into. There's no politics around it. It's your information, your thoughts, your energy and you're asking to receive benefit for that energy.
Jason Rigby (17:55):
And he gets into Bitcoin a little bit. And we talk about Bitcoin a lot, our cryptocurrency. "As a 12 year old digital disruptor," he's talking about Bitcoin, "To one of the most ancient and important tools in the world, gold, Bitcoin is a tectonic shift in human organization. Gold is the 5,000 year old base layer monetary operating system for all modern systems of human governance. Until recently, all human governance was based off of gold for money. An ancient sovereignty system that has been corrupted by central banking."
Alexander McCaig (18:25):
Corrupted.
Jason Rigby (18:26):
"Breaking the centralized string hold on money by disrupting it at the base layer, Bitcoin forces a total revamping of the socioeconomic system derived from money."
Alexander McCaig (18:35):
Yeah. That means the fabric of energetic value put into something which we coin as money, is no longer based on a corrupt central authority. It's based on what we, as people, determine its value of. Data is valuable to me. I will not sell it to you until I see the value that I recognize in it.
Jason Rigby (19:01):
Yes. So that's a problem. And this is what I would say would be the basis of life, is value. And we talked about this before, but the reason that corporations and governments see the value of your data, we as human species, globally, have not seen the value of our data because we value... and I'm not picking on Instagram but that seems to be the number one, I think.
Alexander McCaig (19:23):
It's just an easy example.
Jason Rigby (19:23):
You know, Facebook. Yeah, easy example. And like I said, I'm not picking on Facebook that owns Instagram. We see it as Facebook, the entertainment is the value that we're perceiving. So it's like, oh, I sign these two private things, it's free.
Alexander McCaig (19:38):
Yeah but entertainment doesn't give you the energy to survive.
Jason Rigby (19:40):
No.
Alexander McCaig (19:41):
Entertainment does not help you evolve.
Jason Rigby (19:43):
No.
Alexander McCaig (19:44):
Energy helps you evolve. You're giving them all the energy and getting nothing in return.
Jason Rigby (19:48):
And they're evolving.
Alexander McCaig (19:49):
They're evolving. And then you're like, "Crap, they're evolving and then I'm the tiny piece of bacteria and they're the huge one continues to swallow more."
Jason Rigby (19:56):
And that's evolution.
Alexander McCaig (19:57):
They're a king of the Petri dish.
Jason Rigby (19:58):
Yes. He says, "Bitcoin is momentous, monetary innovation, enabling a new mode of non-nation state human organizations. A purified form of capitalism, free of nation, state interference and deserving of its own." And he uses this neologism.
Alexander McCaig (20:16):
Listen, it's not the fact that Bitcoin is worth $51,000 or $61,000. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The most fundamental part of it was the adoption that people will determine the value or the choice of what they want to use to buy goods and services.
Jason Rigby (20:33):
Yes.
Alexander McCaig (20:34):
That is the most fundamental point. If you want to take a stand against corrupt central banking authorities all over the globe, including the one in your own country, buy your goods and services in a cryptocurrency. In a currency, whatever it might be, where the human being chooses its value, not some centralized control system.
Jason Rigby (20:57):
As a collective.
Alexander McCaig (20:58):
As a collective where we all agree upon it, not one person telling us what it is.
Jason Rigby (21:00):
It's a bottom-up organic approach.
Alexander McCaig (21:02):
Yeah because that's how things work. The hive fails, if the bees are not actually going out and collecting the honey, as simple as that.
Jason Rigby (21:10):
And we've talked about this before, the hives are the most efficient thing in nature.
Alexander McCaig (21:14):
They're the most efficient thing.
Jason Rigby (21:15):
90 something percent in nature. So the more efficient you are...
Alexander McCaig (21:18):
Yeah and there's hives everywhere, they're decentralized.
Jason Rigby (21:20):
Yes.
Alexander McCaig (21:20):
Gosh.
Jason Rigby (21:20):
It's the same thing. So let's close this out because the next podcast we're going to get into sovereignty, the sovereignty of your data and sovereignty of you as an individual. When we look at this energy is truth and we look at Tartle and that energy exchange, how important is it for, and I want to take it from two approaches, how is important for people to get on Tartle and sell their data? But how is it important for corporations and governments to get involved with Tartle?
Alexander McCaig (21:45):
It's so important for them because then they say, "Okay, I want truth. I want information I can act upon that's really beneficial. We have the means of collecting things, I'm assuming it's the truth or guessing about it." And by doing that, you're also creating an economic balance. You're respecting human beings. If you want to be a respectable company, you got to respect human beings. And you do that by going to them directly and say, "Hey, I want to create a strong bond with you as an individual. And I want to pay you for your energy, so that you can help me. And we can feed in full circle, a process that benefits both of us in both of our evolutions, not just one." That's why it's so important for everybody to get involved in Tartle, right this second.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Thank you for listening to Tartle Cast with your hosts, Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby, where humanity steps into the future and source data defines the path, the path. What's your data worth?
