History's Failures: TARTLE's Big Role in Stopping Us From Repeating Them

Alexander McCaig (00:07):

Welcome back to TARTLE Cast. To understand what's occurring today, we have to look back at our past. Oh, look back. We have to look back at the data to understand how we ended up where we are now.

Jason Rigby (00:19):

Past human data is a predictor of future. We repeat cycles and patterns unless we've evolved.

Alexander McCaig (00:27):

Unless we've evolved, and that's where those intricacies of data today help us see how we're doing those micro evolutions.

Jason Rigby (00:33):

There's this little part on the map up there that was, a long time ago as you guys can see, it was called... And I want to start this. We're going to talk about, and I don't want to bore you guys, it's going to be really interesting. It's going to be history lesson. I'm going to use the word macroeconomics. There's a futurist macroeconomics person out there where a lot of this material came from, is Raoul Pal is his name, and he's on CNBC and all these different areas.

Jason Rigby (00:58):

And hedge fund managers pay him big money for him to give his macroeconomics analysis. He tries to put these puzzle pieces together and he can't quite figure it out because he doesn't know TARTLE. He hasn't learned about TARTLE, and we've reached out to him before and I'm going to reach out to him again because the puzzle pieces come together if you see TARTLE. And so I want people to understand this, and we're going to start in the late 1800s, 1900 with the British empire. So the little old British empire-

Alexander McCaig (01:31):

United Kingdom.

Jason Rigby (01:34):

Little tiny guy.

Alexander McCaig (01:35):

Little tiny monarchy that was running itself for quite a long time.

Jason Rigby (01:40):

Yeah. For a long time, began to break down.

Alexander McCaig (01:43):

Yeah. They're like, "Okay, this isn't doing too well. So now that we don't have like a ton of control over here on our British owls, we're going to expand. Since we're losing power with saying that, 'Okay, it's my God-given right to be king or queen.' Well, now we have to put ourselves into financial power. So how do we get more of that? Oh, fantastic. Let's use our ships. Let's go imperialize things, right? Let's use our sphere of influence-"

Jason Rigby (02:10):

And we'll take over the world.

Alexander McCaig (02:12):

"And we'll take over the world. Let's go to other places."

Jason Rigby (02:14):

And that's what they did. They were influenced.

Alexander McCaig (02:16):

So what happens when, Jason you-

Jason Rigby (02:19):

Well, here's what's happening. So they take over the world. They can't handle the systems that they put in place because it's too big of a reach.

Alexander McCaig (02:28):

Same thing happened to realm.

Jason Rigby (02:29):

Yeah. Same thing happened, and this will happen in the United States [crosstalk 00:02:32]-

Alexander McCaig (02:32):

In short order.

Jason Rigby (02:33):

... China and Iran. We'll get into all of the United States and China too. Lo and behold, the country right next to them, starts with a G. Germany begins to rise in the early 1900s with industrial power.

Alexander McCaig (02:45):

They're doing great. Their factories, everything they're making, what we thought were coffee makers with Braun and stuff like that, make your razor, they were making military items.

Jason Rigby (02:56):

So something happens majorly. There's an Archduke that gets shot.

Alexander McCaig (03:02):

Well, how does it even get to that point?

Jason Rigby (03:04):

Here we go, here we go. Put the pizzas in.

Alexander McCaig (03:08):

So before the outset of World War I. And there were a lot of expansion and people felt economic pressures within their countries in Europe at the time. Politicians were making choices to split up certain countries to say, "Oh, we're going to nationalize this and not nationalize this." And then it goes against the culture of the people in the area, how they essentially recognize themselves with the land. So this underground group develops called the Black Hand. The Austrian Black Hand. Serbian Black Hand was a terrorist group that had nationalist games to preserve an old way. They wanted to go against what was currently occurring with the politics, and they said, "We in our underground movement", which was also slightly a part of a couple Masonic lodges there at the time, said, "Let's pull some of ourselves together, use some of this underground tactics, ritual rights, and things like that to build a sub powerful group where we can control what's going on with these monarchs, these ruling monarchs."

Alexander McCaig (04:13):

So these Serbian terrorists, after the collapse of the Ottoman empire, in help due to what Britain was doing in their imperialism. After all these collapses, they're like, "Okay, how do we divide up all this stuff?" Now the power has left Europe and it's left the people in their own devices. What do we do? So they're like, "We can't let these people split up these territories." The two nations of Austria-Hungary and Bosnia Herzegovina, I don't even know if I said that right. We're trying to bring them together, but they're getting split up. And this dude who's kind of pushing it, the Archduke, Franz Ferdinand, we got to stop that. So there's this big event, big parade going on. You got monarchs, "Celebrate me. It's my God-given position." This group shows up and blasts the guy. Said, "Nuh-uh, dead."

Alexander McCaig (05:01):

So this group, the Black Hand, then spurs this political mess that is occurring. And as this starts to prevail where these countries are getting split up, they have to seek alliances on the outside. We need support, because there's an internal battle going on between these Eastern European empires. So we're going to need people to back us up. Oh, who jumps in first? Germany. Yeah, we'll come back you up on this side. You're close, we have some sort of economic trade with you. We do agree with what the politicians and the monarchs in your areas were doing. Yeah, we'll hop with you guys. And so then what happens? World War I.

Jason Rigby (05:39):

Yes. And 20 million people died in World War I. And it wasn't anything but technology that killed them. This was the battle of tech. This was when tech first hit hardcore and it was able to wipe mass amounts of people out in one felt swoop. Tech would just [inaudible 00:06:01].

Alexander McCaig (06:01):

What was the early tech? They had mustard gas.

Jason Rigby (06:04):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (06:04):

So the technology in chemistry was evolving. Trench warfare was a new type of technology.

Jason Rigby (06:11):

You got new, early tanks. You had early artillery-

Alexander McCaig (06:16):

Airplanes?

Jason Rigby (06:16):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (06:17):

Which would throw ropes and bricks and use surveillance. So all these things were evolving, so that means warfare actually became more targeted, more violent. The ease of which it was to kill somebody was much more seamless than going to battle face to face with horses and throwing a javelin-

Jason Rigby (06:34):

Instead of one to one, or maybe a guy would kill ten guys or whatever. This was-

Alexander McCaig (06:38):

The ratios changed.

Jason Rigby (06:39):

... a piece of technology could kill a thousand.

Alexander McCaig (06:42):

That's correct.

Jason Rigby (06:43):

And so after you have that happen, I guess the world leaders get together and say, "We can't have World War I again. We can't have 20 million people die." So they sign a treaty.

Alexander McCaig (06:57):

It was divisive. And then they said that the expansion, the support, the industrial support that Germany gave in the process of this technology and the war machines, we got to blame them. You guys are going to pay. So it was the treaty of what?

Jason Rigby (07:13):

Versailles.

Alexander McCaig (07:13):

Treaty of Versailles, which was originally put together by the League of Nations. Which was this earlier idea before we had the United nations. League of Nations actually failed. But the point was, we're like, "We're going to make Germany pay."

Jason Rigby (07:24):

They wanted them to offset all the damage that the technology had caused that they created.

Alexander McCaig (07:28):

So the war reparations. So all this industry that Germany had built then became depressed. It actually crushed the economy of Germany. And this agitated the German people.

Jason Rigby (07:38):

Well, people don't realize in today's terminology, it was a half trillion dollars. No country can pay that.

Alexander McCaig (07:43):

No.

Jason Rigby (07:44):

Especially back then.

Alexander McCaig (07:44):

People run around with wheelbarrows full of cash because the Deutschemark wasn't worth anything.

Jason Rigby (07:49):

So Germany, they realize after a while that they can't pay. So they debase their currency. So when they're debasing their currency, we're going to talk about this later, what we're doing right now. And a lot of countries are doing this. When they debase the currency, hyperinflation-

Alexander McCaig (08:07):

Because the debt was too large. For size, we're going to impose some debt. You can't service it, so you have to print more. So now your money's worth less.

Jason Rigby (08:16):

And so they thought that if they debase the currency and printed a bunch more, they may be able to pay the debt back. But that created hyperinflation-

Alexander McCaig (08:23):

And then all your people in your country, what are they going to do? They're going to rise up. They're going to become agitated.

Jason Rigby (08:27):

Yeah, because it's an industrial country and they have tons of factories. So these factory workers, they're getting paid pennies on the dollar. Nothing's happening. Germany collapses under this debt. And so you make this perfect swamp to allow this one person to rise out of the swamp. And he's created a perfect environment for this to happen.

Alexander McCaig (08:52):

What's he's saying? We know who to blame. These people. They did it. And your old government, the one on the auspices of the Ottoman Empire, which has collapsed, we need to blame them. Because they let Germany be attacked and belittled and made small when we are people of great power.

Jason Rigby (09:13):

And so we have this man with the funny little mustache-

Alexander McCaig (09:17):

Who writes a book, goes to prison. Originally hung wallpaper.

Jason Rigby (09:23):

Failed artist.

Alexander McCaig (09:24):

Come from a Jewish family. Oh, this is really interesting.

Jason Rigby (09:28):

He begins to give these amazing speeches, writes this book, gets the youth and others involved. And Hitler rises.

Alexander McCaig (09:35):

Correct. So just like in Serbia, this Black Hand group, this nationalist group, in the underbelly and the darkness that was occurring, this new one rises up and it takes to the streets.

Jason Rigby (09:46):

And we must always realize this, whether it's World War I, World War II or whatever, or now with Afghanistan, we spend trillions of dollars. Cost of war always destroys currency.

Alexander McCaig (09:57):

Every time.

Jason Rigby (09:58):

Because you can't pay you the bills of it.

Alexander McCaig (10:00):

No.

Jason Rigby (10:00):

It becomes debt. We owe, still, for Afghanistan. There's mass amounts of debt that we have. The trillions of dollars that we spend in Afghanistan? That's all failed. We were over 20 years there-

Alexander McCaig (10:11):

Has the Civil War been paid off? No, no. I actually think I'm pretty sure it hasn't been paid off. The treasury issues these notes so we can feed the war machine, but you got to pay into that. You're the one who's running this system. So if you're going to overload it with that, you got to pay it somehow because everybody else is working off the system, all 330 million people.

Jason Rigby (10:33):

And this is crazy because this League of Nations, the Treaty of Versailles, actually what they thought was a good thing, they were way unrealistic in it. Created this nasty group, these fascists.

Alexander McCaig (10:50):

Democratic nationalists.

Jason Rigby (10:50):

And now we have World War II looming on the scene. And World War II hits. 50 million people die.

Alexander McCaig (10:59):

Well, why? Because now the war machines spool up.

Jason Rigby (11:02):

Oh, the tech?

Alexander McCaig (11:03):

And there's this nationalist pride that's driving these people to do things they otherwise wouldn't do. To create, build faster, be the strongest, pit someone against the other. Say that that person is evil. We need to work against them. They've taken from us. When you can get people culturally and emotionally like that, they'll do anything under the sun. What did Joseph Goebbels say? You tell a lie big enough and long enough, people will soon believe it. And he was Hitler's head of propaganda.

Jason Rigby (11:31):

Propaganda.

Alexander McCaig (11:32):

So what happens?

Jason Rigby (11:34):

So 50 million people die. We all know the outcome of World War II, but here's the crazy part.

Alexander McCaig (11:40):

Tell me.

Jason Rigby (11:40):

They want to experience this new deal. So they're going to have this new deal come out. The new deal on the monetary side of things is fiscal stimulus. This is where this gets introduced.

Alexander McCaig (11:50):

The first idea-

Jason Rigby (11:51):

Because inflation was high. So I need to be creative. So what can I do? Well, let's use stimulus. So they stimulate the economy. Especially here in the United States it even gets worse because we come back, World War II, we're all happy, suburbs are created. It's the late 1940s, 1950s, the golden era of America. 1950.

Alexander McCaig (12:14):

A boom on consumer goods.

Jason Rigby (12:16):

We actually have-

Alexander McCaig (12:17):

Marketing.

Jason Rigby (12:17):

... because this is all going to go back to demographics. We actually have the largest population boom ever in the history of the world. 78 million people are born. We get a 40% growth in the United States in 20 years.

Alexander McCaig (12:30):

Baby boomers. That's what it is.

Jason Rigby (12:32):

They start having kids.

Alexander McCaig (12:33):

And they start buying products. And this wealth is occurring because they're stimulus. Money's just getting poured into this stuff. Marketing. Oh, by the way, where did all the good marketing come from? Oh, it came from Goebbels and his cousins.

Jason Rigby (12:44):

Well, even worse, is the 1950s get stimulated from the tech from warfare.

Alexander McCaig (12:50):

That's exactly right.

Jason Rigby (12:51):

And they get turned into consumer goods.

Alexander McCaig (12:52):

Your Braun coffee maker? Well, you can thank the Nazis for it because that's where it came from.

Jason Rigby (12:58):

Your new washer and dryer? All of the-

Alexander McCaig (13:01):

That BMW you owned? They made airplane engines.

Jason Rigby (13:03):

Japan begins to do what with there? We begin to go over there and spool up their factories.

Alexander McCaig (13:07):

Absolutely.

Jason Rigby (13:08):

So I mean this tech from warfare, it turns into consumer goods. So now you have not just a fiscal stimulus. Central bankers are fiscally stimulating. You also have a manufacturing stimulus.

Alexander McCaig (13:20):

Oh, wait. So you have economic stimulus, manufacturing stimulus, and actual human life stimulus.

Jason Rigby (13:26):

Yes. Yes.

Alexander McCaig (13:26):

There's so many people coming on the planet.

Jason Rigby (13:28):

So, I want people to think it's a boom. Baby boomers, like you said. Then we turn around and the powers that be, the one percenters, decide to create NATO. European union. And they do a big thing that they call tariffs and trades. They make a tariffs and trades app.

Alexander McCaig (13:45):

So why did we forget what happens when we put reparations on somebody? So what happens when I take these micro reparations and I start putting them everywhere. You start doing these tariffs. What are people going to do? They're going to counter that. Or they're going to take a path of least resistance. You're going to get the opposite of what you really want it to happen.

Jason Rigby (14:04):

So these one percenters think... Do we need to be done and do part two?

Alexander McCaig (14:08):

No, keep going.

Jason Rigby (14:09):

These one percenters think, "Okay, global order's kept. We have economic interdependence now among nations."

Alexander McCaig (14:14):

Oh, because we're all trading.

Jason Rigby (14:16):

We're all trading now. So this is going to prevent World War III. So far it has, but there's some huge problems that happen.

Alexander McCaig (14:22):

Well, why do they think it'll prevent World War III? The idea is that, well, no country would want to harm one another because we're now relying on one another. We don't want to upset pricing. Or the price of currencies. See what I'm saying?

Jason Rigby (14:33):

We'll do a really quick recap, and then we're going to go into part two about why this is so important. World War I hit, it creates Hitler. World War II goes down, we have stimulus that hits, we have nations that are interdependent on each other. We have NATO EU is happening. Huge boom. United States becomes a powerhouse. Not Britain anymore, united States is a powerhouse of the world. Monster boom, 40% population growing more than ever. Consumer goods being, you're living the high life. The 1950s commercials, go on YouTube and watch 1950 commercials [crosstalk 00:15:08]-

Alexander McCaig (15:07):

Are you kidding me?

Jason Rigby (15:08):

Big Buicks.

Alexander McCaig (15:09):

Love it. Big driveway, white picket fence, golden retrievers. The American Dream.

Jason Rigby (15:13):

Barbecues.

Alexander McCaig (15:14):

Barbecues.

Jason Rigby (15:16):

Nice clothes. And then we're going to get into why you feel like you can't get ahead in your life, and how TARTLE solves that.

Alexander McCaig (15:26):

Love it.

Speaker 3 (15:36):

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