Micro-Benefits With Micropayments: How to Get Your Money’s Worth

Alexander McCaig (00:10):

Whatever you're about to say, do it slowly. Break it to me easily, softly. All right, whisper it [crosstalk 00:00:18].

Jason Rigby (00:17):

I'm not going to get into this part because I want to lay a preface for it. Then I'm going to make a statement about the TARTLE marketplace that is amazing. And when people get this dynamic of understanding it, they're not going to be like, holy shit.

Alexander McCaig (00:28):

I can feel-

Jason Rigby (00:29):

It's going to be like...

Alexander McCaig (00:30):

... blood is leaving my extremities.

Jason Rigby (00:31):

Yeah. It's going to be that-

Alexander McCaig (00:33):

It's filling in my chest cavity.

Jason Rigby (00:34):

This is going to light up like a motherfucker, the pineal gland.

Alexander McCaig (00:38):

My pineal gland is on fire.

Jason Rigby (00:40):

We're going to uncalcify some people right now.

Alexander McCaig (00:41):

Right now we are. We're going to take that fluoride out of the water.

Jason Rigby (00:44):

And so this sounds crazy to you, but it's going to turn into something more.

Alexander McCaig (00:48):

Okay, tell me.

Jason Rigby (00:49):

I want to get into micropayments. Because we're doing that right now with TARTLE, but it's more than that. This is a major problem that has faced society. It's faced the internet, and it's faced society for a long time. I want you to send some money to Chile right now. I want you to send 50 cents to Chile. I want you to send a couple of dollars to... I want you to send $10 to Chile.

Alexander McCaig (01:13):

It'll cost you $15 in fees, plus your $10 just to get it to that place.

Jason Rigby (01:19):

I want you to do it online. How much is that going to cost?

Alexander McCaig (01:22):

And I want you to do it instantly, not going to happen. You can't do it. Even Bitcoin fees, they just don't work.

Jason Rigby (01:30):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (01:31):

It economically is not feasible for the general public to use it. I don't care how many people try and engineer a new technology on top of it, whatever it might be, the fundamentals of this system at large, do not work.

Jason Rigby (01:45):

So let me say this. Would you say that the business model now, of payments internationally, has mass amounts of friction in it?

Alexander McCaig (01:53):

Yeah. It's so much friction, it's like burning your skin off, it's hot because things are just rubbing, and nothing moves seamlessly. There's no good way to move small amounts of money, which is typically what most of the world has, because they live on less than $2.30 cents a day. So having a function for true micropayments and moving that around is so fundamentally important.

Jason Rigby (02:20):

So here's their fix, the old systems fix for it. Are you ready? And this is the internet, too.

Alexander McCaig (02:24):

Yep.

Jason Rigby (02:25):

We'll take Spotify, Netflix, those. Let's create ads, and then we can give them free content. They don't have to worry about taking these small payments. We can have massive aggregation, we'll collect their data, and we'll give it to them for free. But then we're going to put... As Spotify has never... we're going to put ads. Amazon, we're going to put ads.

Alexander McCaig (02:47):

That's what we need. The people who don't have enough money to put food on their table, let's serve them ads for things they can't afford.

Jason Rigby (02:54):

So we're collecting data on both. Whether we're doing it in the bad system where it's going to cost you $15 to send $10. We're doing this massive aggregation where we're giving them free content in hopes to get the... We're giving them something free to get their data, to correlate to get users on the system and all that stuff, to create value for this company, you know, Netflix is worth shitloads of money. But we're collecting data on both, but it's still centralized.

Alexander McCaig (03:18):

It's completely centralized.

Jason Rigby (03:19):

Both are centralized.

Alexander McCaig (03:20):

Yeah. Why? Because all that information collected only goes to a couple of parties. Why can't that information go to all parties? Why can't everybody share in the wealth of information?

Jason Rigby (03:32):

But here's-

Alexander McCaig (03:32):

That's like universities don't pay to go to school.

Jason Rigby (03:35):

This isn't my go-to inform here.

Alexander McCaig (03:37):

Yeah.

Jason Rigby (03:37):

But this is a good one. Are you ready?

Alexander McCaig (03:39):

Yep.

Jason Rigby (03:40):

Here's the most important question to all these companies out there. How do you treat the information, and how do you treat the user?

Alexander McCaig (03:49):

Wow.

Jason Rigby (03:50):

Think about that.

Alexander McCaig (03:51):

You know what they'll say? Here's our terms of service and privacy policy. Is that how you treat them? Do you actually-

Jason Rigby (03:59):

Is that uplifting humanity?

Alexander McCaig (04:00):

Is that really helping them? Are you really establishing a relationship and empowering these people? No. You're using that information for yourself or your small little group, right? So that you can make a profit. You can squeeze them that much more. There's no balance. There's no balance.

Jason Rigby (04:25):

I'm going to use an old example here. What's the difference between... Remember the glass beads to Africa scenario?

Alexander McCaig (04:30):

Yes, yes, yes.

Jason Rigby (04:32):

So, oh, they value glass beads, so that's a form of currency they were using in Africa.

Alexander McCaig (04:36):

Yeah.

Jason Rigby (04:36):

So we can exchange people-

Alexander McCaig (04:39):

For glass beads.

Jason Rigby (04:39):

... for glass beads. But here's what we can do until they catch on. We have glass bead factories in Europe, so let's make a bunch of glass beads, we'll fill the ships full of glass beads-

Alexander McCaig (04:49):

And we can get all the people we want.

Jason Rigby (04:52):

... and we get the glass beads for nothing, and then we can get all the slaves that we want.

Alexander McCaig (04:53):

Correct. You know what that is? It's like when there was a time when people would... certain sea shells that was currency?

Jason Rigby (04:59):

Mm-hmm (affirmative), yes.

Alexander McCaig (05:00):

What if I have like an aquaculture operation? You know what I mean? Oh, salt. Oh, we're the only people with mining equipment, so we just have tons of salt we can trade for whatever we want.

Jason Rigby (05:09):

So these two systems that are totally centralized. I'm not saying they're doing the same thing with slavery or whatever.

Alexander McCaig (05:14):

No, no, no.

Jason Rigby (05:15):

But in theory, they're doing that to their users, because they're not treating the information right. They're using it all for wealth and gain.

Alexander McCaig (05:22):

They're not sourcing it economically, ethically.

Jason Rigby (05:24):

They're not considering the user at all when they're doing that. They're saying how can I, like you said, squeeze-

Alexander McCaig (05:29):

Squeeze.

Jason Rigby (05:30):

... just as central banks are doing, just as Federal Reserve is. How can I squeeze every little bit out of this person? Think of a sponge, and they're just squeezing all your life energy out, that's what they're doing. And then, how are they treating you as a user? You may feel like you're being entertained on Instagram, on-

Alexander McCaig (05:48):

But at what cost?

Jason Rigby (05:49):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (05:50):

Thanks for the entertainment, but at what cost? For FOMO, for depression, for a lack of value for my time. Listen, when people clock in for work, they're expected to be compensated for their time, right?

Jason Rigby (06:03):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (06:04):

If you're clocking in on an app and generating data for them, these assets, you should be compensated for your time.

Jason Rigby (06:09):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (06:10):

Same thing, shouldn't be any different, right? And you have a limited supply of energy over your existence as a human being, reincarnative or not, I don't care what you believe. This meat suit has a specific amount of time and a certain amount of energy.

Jason Rigby (06:23):

And that energy is being traded for work, for [inaudible 00:06:25].

Alexander McCaig (06:25):

Traded for work. Right. And so if you are not trading that, and getting something equal in return to create a balance within this system of interaction amongst people in businesses, there is a problem. It needs fixing.

Jason Rigby (06:36):

So how does the TARTLE free marketplace, how does that payment system fix all of this? I mean, I like Netflix, I like Spotify, I have both. But how are we not like that old system? How are we not like the $15 to send $10?

Alexander McCaig (06:52):

You're acting about the crescendo.

Jason Rigby (06:54):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (06:56):

TARTLE is completely feeless, instantaneous value transfer of micro transactions to very large values, regardless. With the sharing of information where people are rightfully, ethically and morally compensated for the sharing of their information. So as you do work, you receive the value for that work. That's how it should happen.

Jason Rigby (07:17):

So let's say I have $40 on my TARTLE wallet.

Alexander McCaig (07:20):

Congratulations.

Jason Rigby (07:21):

Because I've done some video package, and I want to give it to one of my family members. How much does that cost?

Alexander McCaig (07:26):

Nothing, zero. Zero.

Jason Rigby (07:33):

So here's my statement, my main statement.

Alexander McCaig (07:36):

Legitimately, like no smoking mirrors.

Jason Rigby (07:38):

This is where I wanted to go straight up.

Alexander McCaig (07:40):

Zero.

Jason Rigby (07:41):

So would you say that the TARTLE marketplace is millions of people working for you?

Alexander McCaig (07:46):

No, not for TARTLE.

Jason Rigby (07:48):

No, no. I was saying for you as that individual, the one person, millions of people, you're sitting online, and maybe you live in Mexico. And you're sitting online, you're in Mexico City, and you're filling out data packets, you have to know that the TARTLE marketplace, there are millions of other people, hopefully billions that are working just for you.

Alexander McCaig (08:08):

They are. Do you want to know why? Because it's a cooperative effort. The more that join, the more that work, we're all working for each other and ourselves, to increase and uplift in that value.

Jason Rigby (08:22):

Yes. Because globally, if all people are doing all work, what happens?

Alexander McCaig (08:27):

Oh my God, the world is changed.

Jason Rigby (08:30):

Yes, yes, exactly.

Alexander McCaig (08:31):

Look at all this fantastic stuff occurring.

Jason Rigby (08:32):

So every single person on the marketplace is cheering for you.

Alexander McCaig (08:37):

Yes.

Jason Rigby (08:37):

Not you as the CEO.

Alexander McCaig (08:38):

No.

Jason Rigby (08:39):

I'm saying that person in Mexico City. Every person, whether it's the buyer, or whether it's another seller.

Alexander McCaig (08:45):

We're championing-

Jason Rigby (08:46):

Or wherever you're at, you can be in Iceland, you can be in Moscow, it doesn't matter. They're cheering for you.

Alexander McCaig (08:51):

Yeah. Because we are all trying to make great amounts of change. And by us cheering you on, not only increases our value, it increases your value.

Jason Rigby (08:59):

Can you tell me a company that's out there, where you have millions of people working for one individual, for you. You guys that are listening, it's for you. And then you have another company where they've set up a system where millions of people, hopefully billions are cheering for you, too.

Alexander McCaig (09:18):

No.

Jason Rigby (09:18):

And excited about the work that you're doing. Is there anything ethically out there like that?

Alexander McCaig (09:26):

You take it like a library mixed with Google mixed with the NFL, right? Or some big soccer team, and you bring them all together. And then you wrap in some NGOs at the same time. You know what I mean?

Jason Rigby (09:38):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alexander McCaig (09:39):

And you bundle and squeeze and that's that thing, I don't know of anything else. That's why on any sort of apples to apples comparison, nothing is occurring like what occurs on the TARTLE marketplace, nothing. There's nothing out there like it, not one damn thing.

Jason Rigby (09:54):

So would you say our payment systems and wallets, TARTLE's marketplace, would you say it's one of a high friction or low friction?

Alexander McCaig (10:02):

Do you remember that episode, Have You Seen Rick and Morty?

Jason Rigby (10:04):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Alexander McCaig (10:06):

Morty thought he made a slippery surface, like a zero friction one?

Jason Rigby (10:09):

Right, right, right.

Alexander McCaig (10:09):

And then Rick shows up, he's like, "Morty, you don't know what no friction is." And then he creates this one square foot of completely frictionless surface. Morty steps on it, his brain melts, and he has this major epiphany. That's how frictionless it is. We don't ask anything of you. We don't force you to do anything. You consent to everything that you want to do. You're well aware, educated, all the material is there. And you have the opportunity to create as much value as possible.

Jason Rigby (10:37):

And we're creating hundreds of hours of content. Explaining and being totally transparent about every little bit way. We have walkthrough video.

Alexander McCaig (10:45):

Everything.

Jason Rigby (10:45):

We have everything that we talk about.

Alexander McCaig (10:47):

We've run out there even getting third-party certifications to say that we are ethically and morally doing this for your benefit. I don't know how much more we got to say this for you guys, but it's about you. We're doing this for you. Why? Because it needs to exist. And I'm going to continue this. I have to say that TARTLE has to exist. It's a requirement for earth's civilization. All of us on this closed system of a planet, it has to exist at this time. Because these catalysts of what's going on socially, politically, and economically, are driving it to occur.

Jason Rigby (11:24):

And the Data 4.0, that they have the answer to solve all this, is just a small elite group of people getting richer.

Alexander McCaig (11:32):

Yeah.

Jason Rigby (11:33):

It has nothing to do with helping seven and a half billion people.

Alexander McCaig (11:38):

Which is going up to nine and a half billion.

Jason Rigby (11:40):

Yes. So how do we help seven and a half billion people? How can somebody have somebody cheer for them right now?

Alexander McCaig (11:46):

You sign up on TARTLE, then you share the fact that you signed up on TARTLE. Oh, by the way you get paid for sharing that information. Wow, you do work and get paid for it. It's absolutely amazing. I'm dumbfounded.

Jason Rigby (11:57):

So if you love Facebook, sign up for TARTLE.

Alexander McCaig (12:00):

You're getting compensated for helping uplift humanity, making people aware of something that's actually beneficial for them. Not just trying to get somebody to buy some other crap household as seen on TV product. No. Do something, share something truly beneficial. (silence).