Modern Economies: How to See Beyond the Shared Fiction

Jason Rigby (00:06):

The Battle of Money.

Alexander McCaig (00:08):

Battle of Money, part three.

Jason Rigby (00:10):

Yes. TARTLE wins, by the way.

Alexander McCaig (00:11):

Yeah, TARTLE wins all the way because information drives money and that information is created by work, so TARTLE is winning.

Jason Rigby (00:18):

The Four Horsemen.

Alexander McCaig (00:19):

Because people are winning. Yeah.

Jason Rigby (00:20):

The Apocalypse, TARTLE wins.

Alexander McCaig (00:21):

The four central banks, the Apocalypse.

Jason Rigby (00:24):

So, let's do a quick recap, so everybody understands. Money reflects society's worth. Society has to confirm the value.

Alexander McCaig (00:34):

Uh-huh (affirmative).

Jason Rigby (00:35):

And through that, the heart of all of that is trust.

Alexander McCaig (00:38):

And if anything breaks that, you're getting scammed.

Jason Rigby (00:42):

They have broke it, so they're asking for-

Alexander McCaig (00:44):

Who's they?

Jason Rigby (00:44):

They, the 1% have broke it.

Alexander McCaig (00:47):

Central bankers. Larger regulators. [crosstalk 00:00:47]

Jason Rigby (00:47):

1% [crosstalk 00:00:47].

Alexander McCaig (00:47):

... Larger regulators. Yep.

Jason Rigby (00:49):

So they're asking us to have faith. We don't have to trust. Just have faith...

Alexander McCaig (00:53):

In their economic theory?

Jason Rigby (00:55):

... And that creates a shared fiction.

Alexander McCaig (00:57):

You know what I don't like about this shared fiction, this faith?

Jason Rigby (01:00):

What?

Alexander McCaig (01:01):

If I go outside to do work, I see the immediate... I get so much pleasure from washing my car. I get an immediate outcome. If I feel like things aren't happening quick enough in the day for me, I'll go clean something, because the work goes in and I see an immediate outcome.

Jason Rigby (01:16):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (01:18):

That's how the system should work. But, these other systems, people don't feel that anymore. There are drags and inefficiencies, and they ask you to have faith because it's not rebounding. People don't see the instantaneous effort and their effects.

Jason Rigby (01:30):

I think that's why people, even though it's so technically difficult for the average person, I think that's why people love cryptocurrency because you have the wallet, you have the key, no one else can have it, it's yours.

Alexander McCaig (01:41):

Yeah. I don't have to ask the bank for permission. None of that stuff.

Jason Rigby (01:46):

No, I don't have to ask anything of that. So, if the 1% can't determine the values of society, and we're in the process of going from physical to digital, because I think this is important, and this is where TARTLE's marketplace comes in, because data, we talked about the value of data, World Economic Forum has talked about data 4.0-

Alexander McCaig (02:02):

Yeah. Fourth industrial revolution...

Jason Rigby (02:04):

All of this...

Alexander McCaig (02:05):

... Web 3.0, data, 4.0.

Jason Rigby (02:06):

... IoT, Internet of thing devices, the Metaverse, all this stuff is more data.

Alexander McCaig (02:11):

Right. The human-centered internet, read-write capabilities.

Jason Rigby (02:15):

Yes. Web 3.0.

Alexander McCaig (02:16):

Data, data, data, data, data.

Jason Rigby (02:19):

[inaudible 00:02:19].

Alexander McCaig (02:19):

[inaudible 00:02:17].

Jason Rigby (02:19):

So I want to get into not just the physical to digital, because we understand the transition that's happening, I want to get into TARTLE's values system and how trust is played out.

Jason Rigby (02:32):

So, first, let's talk about, because this is really important, there's two things that TARTLE guarantees, economic privacy and economic liberty. So let's start with economic privacy.

Alexander McCaig (02:43):

Okay, economic privacy, so your choice to keep things to yourself, okay, that actually creates a value because you limit, you actually create a scarcity on the information about you, so there's economic privacy. There's a gain you get to the control to the release of this information when you choose to do so when you leave private and become public with it. Does that make sense?

Jason Rigby (03:10):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (03:10):

Okay. Now what's the second one?

Jason Rigby (03:13):

Economic liberty.

Alexander McCaig (03:14):

Economic liberty. Okay. This data, this thing is your right, and your choice to do things with it creates an economic gain for yourself, so there's economic liberty. You have the choice over how much financial gain, economic empowerment you want through the use of this information which you create.

Jason Rigby (03:34):

How does TARTLE guarantee economic privacy and economic liberty?

Alexander McCaig (03:38):

TARTLE does not control your information. You only store it in a system where our technology is trust-less, the technology itself, so that you can trust individuals on the other side will get it fairly.

Jason Rigby (03:51):

Note [inaudible 00:03:52] trust, not faith.

Alexander McCaig (03:52):

Yeah. Not faith, because we can show you logically to a fact, okay? We can't see it. We have no control the keys in your hand. It's all for you.

Jason Rigby (04:02):

And it's a free marketplace so we have Liberty. The buyer can come in set stipulations about what type of data they want to purchase from you. You have the choice-

Alexander McCaig (04:11):

To meet them.

Jason Rigby (04:12):

-and your free will to say, "I want this or I don't want this. I want to sell this or I don't want to sell this."

Alexander McCaig (04:17):

It's your choice.

Jason Rigby (04:19):

Yes.

Alexander McCaig (04:19):

It's not someone of telling you, "Hey, you got to come in you have to pay your taxes otherwise you get punished."

Alexander McCaig (04:24):

You don't have to do it. If you don't want to. There's not a punishment on the other side for a choice of not doing it.

Jason Rigby (04:29):

So through the TARTLE marketplace, humanity determines the value of society.

Alexander McCaig (04:34):

That's precise.

Jason Rigby (04:35):

By their work.

Alexander McCaig (04:36):

By their work. And you know, the cool part is Jason, you can use TARTLE to just securely store your information or you can choose it to monetize information. That's up to you. Whether or not you want to monetize or not, you're safely storing something, something that has a value to you. So you actually have a gain of privately storing things there.

Jason Rigby (04:54):

Yes, and since we went back and we said, information is what drives markets, can you look this up real quick? I think it was two weeks ago, somebody really important. I want to find out who it was, just type in monitor $600 transactions with banks.

Jason Rigby (05:07):

They want to collect information of anything that's over a $600 transaction.

Alexander McCaig (05:12):

Oh IRS.

Jason Rigby (05:13):

Was it the IRS that said that?

Alexander McCaig (05:14):

Yeah.

Jason Rigby (05:15):

There was a specific person I think that, maybe it was the...

Alexander McCaig (05:21):

Federal auditing transactions, $600 the United States, a dart against privacy.

Jason Rigby (05:26):

Yeah. There's a big sting on this. People are like, what? But the government wants inform... They want information. Remember information is what drives markets. They want information of your transactions if it's over $600.

Alexander McCaig (05:40):

Why do they get [inaudible 00:05:41]?

Jason Rigby (05:41):

We make those all the time. If you make a house payment, if you make a car payment, if your car payment's over $600.

Alexander McCaig (05:46):

That just means they want to go even deeper into the things that should be private data.

Jason Rigby (05:49):

They want to collect data.

Alexander McCaig (05:49):

Yeah. Correct.

Jason Rigby (05:50):

It's called oversight. Governmental oversight.

Alexander McCaig (05:54):

Surveillance capitalism at its highest order. This is called government funded surveillance capitalism. There's no reason.

Jason Rigby (06:04):

So, but when you have faith, what does faith do? When you're just having faith in the government to have the best interest for you-

Alexander McCaig (06:11):

There's no proof. They are giving you no proof they're in the best interest of you.

Jason Rigby (06:15):

So can you trust them?

Alexander McCaig (06:17):

No.

Jason Rigby (06:17):

No.

Alexander McCaig (06:18):

You're not supposed to trust your government.

Jason Rigby (06:20):

Right.

Alexander McCaig (06:21):

It's not designed for that.

Jason Rigby (06:22):

It's not. No, because government is force and we've had conversations on that. So I want to make this statement and I want you to talk to this, and this pertains to the TARTLE marketplace.

Alexander McCaig (06:33):

Oh my [crosstalk 00:06:34].

Jason Rigby (06:33):

But I want to say this... I want to say this, we're going to have to get t-shirts of this.

Alexander McCaig (06:36):

Okay.

Jason Rigby (06:37):

Of TARTLE.co t-shirts. What I do is my business.

Alexander McCaig (06:41):

Oh, I love that.

Jason Rigby (06:42):

What I do-

Alexander McCaig (06:42):

Oh, that's like a-

Jason Rigby (06:43):

-is my, notice the key word business.

Alexander McCaig (06:45):

There's so many [inaudible 00:06:46] on it.

Jason Rigby (06:47):

I know. It's so simple [crosstalk 00:06:48].

Alexander McCaig (06:48):

There's so many baked in meanings.

Jason Rigby (06:49):

So let's talk about this.

Alexander McCaig (06:50):

Yeah. What I do is my business. First of all, I can do what I want to do and that's my right to do so. That's one thing. That's one part of business. What I do, okay, that gets recorded is also my business because I generated that information. So that's my business of sharing that information to get paid for it. So everything that I do is essentially my business because I am the cause and effect of that outcome. I am the cause and effect of that record of that data.

Jason Rigby (07:14):

That's right. [inaudible 00:07:14] to get.

Alexander McCaig (07:15):

What I do is my business. What I say is my business. And if you don't want to be a part of my business, don't.

Jason Rigby (07:20):

So $600 transactions is that my business? Or is that the oversight of government?

Alexander McCaig (07:26):

No, that's your business.

Jason Rigby (07:27):

Yes. It's my business.

Alexander McCaig (07:28):

It's 100% your business. It's not the government's business. You apparently worked for that, right? Because why am I working?

Jason Rigby (07:35):

What's the statement about exchanging liberty for security? Remember that old statement.

Alexander McCaig (07:39):

Yeah. And listen-

Jason Rigby (07:40):

And, we're doing that over and over and over again. I just heard studies the other day, this is really interesting in Australia. Australia is like hard crackdown for COVID cases. They are locked down. If you're in Australia right now, I feel sorry for you guys with the lockdown. I mean, we're complaining about masks and stuff like that here. But suicide rate in Australia right now is higher than the COVID cases.

Alexander McCaig (08:01):

Wow.

Jason Rigby (08:01):

This is a problem.

Alexander McCaig (08:02):

Wow.

Jason Rigby (08:03):

This is a problem.

Alexander McCaig (08:04):

Is that a legit fact?

Jason Rigby (08:05):

Yeah. Look that up. Suicide.

Alexander McCaig (08:07):

Suicide rates Australia.

Jason Rigby (08:11):

Let's fact check this.

Alexander McCaig (08:12):

Yeah, no, I got it.

Alexander McCaig (08:17):

Oh boy. Okay. Okay. They are high, but they're decreasing a little bit. They're very high. They call it a tsunami of suicide. That's horrible.

Jason Rigby (08:31):

Well, you've locked people in their homes for two years.

Alexander McCaig (08:33):

That's horrific.

Jason Rigby (08:33):

You get arrested if you go to the park and stuff. I mean, it's like... And you can only walk around... This is what I'm talking about.

Alexander McCaig (08:40):

Right now there's 12 suicides per 100,00 people in Australia alone.

Jason Rigby (08:47):

This is what happens when you have faith in an institution. This is what happens when you put your trust in something that you shouldn't, your free will is yours.

Alexander McCaig (09:01):

You need to put-

Jason Rigby (09:02):

And now you're going against your free will by killing yourself.

Alexander McCaig (09:05):

That's exactly right. So you need to, before we go off on a spiritual tangent here, you need to put your time and energy into things that are real, in front of you, and in your control. That's what you need to focus on. And, anything that goes against your ability to make choices or someone that limits your freedoms or wants to take value away from your work, don't be a part of those systems. Be a part of systems that are actually beneficial to all. Beneficial to yourself. Yes. Ones that actually conjure trust that has a tangible benefit in people's lives. Trust that actually helps fix things that fall underneath the big seven.

Jason Rigby (09:42):

But, and that's exactly where I wanted to close out in this. Whenever you look at, maybe you're locked in and you feel like you have no hope, because that's usually where people go. You feel like you can't trust anybody. Like the world is just falling all around you. You can hop on... If you have internet, you can hop on the computer, you can go to TARTLE.co, you can give to the big seven.

Jason Rigby (10:04):

You can create hope even in your home. If you want to help climate stability, if you're worried about that in Australia. If you're worried about human rights, because your rights are getting violated.

Alexander McCaig (10:13):

Correct.

Jason Rigby (10:13):

And you're worried about that, you can hop on TARTLE.co and you can begin to have that hope again. Have hope in society. Have hope in humanity.

Alexander McCaig (10:22):

Yeah. Because when we come together and we actually pool our collective resources of value towards things that we care about rather than people telling us what we should care about, that's when positive change begins to occur-

Jason Rigby (10:34):

And economic liberty is that positive change.

Alexander McCaig (10:37):

Correct.

Jason Rigby (10:37):

And it's done through the TARTLE marketplace.

Alexander McCaig (10:39):

And if you afford people those economic liberties, economic privacy, all those great things, right, the liquidity of their data within the TARTLE marketplace, they can put their resources to work towards suicide prevention. They could do it towards healthcare research in Australia. People are now given a choice. You open up the access, the freedom of that movement, all of those things, and when you pair them together, something really special happens. But you have to wake up and realize that this opportunity is here for you to take. Are you going to go take it or are you going to be told what to do?

Speaker 5 (11:18):

Thank you for listening to TARTLE cast with your hosts, Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby, where humanity steps into the future and where source data defines the path. What's your date worth?